Yeah, compassionate christians are closer to what I understand of the biblical teachings of jesus than bigoted assholes. Though I'm no bible scholar, and don't intend to be lol
Right, Ive never been a Jeebus guy myself, but something tells me his message wasnt to hate others.
Yeah, that's the vibe I get too lol, and I'm similarly an atheist 🖤🖤
Sounds like a "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
Yea and both Republicans and Democrats christians say the other side are not real Christians. So how would you tell which is not acting "christian"? By their actions, right? What difference can you tell between how those 2 parties use their faith?
You can certainly judge whether a particular action is consistent with Christianity. But that's different from declaring one political party's Christians the "true Christians." The question would be: by what objective Christian standard are you judging their actions? Scripture? Historic Christian doctrine? The teachings of a particular Church?
Again you missed the point. Republicans will say Democrats are not true christians and then they will hate on women, blacks, LGBT, immigrants. Democrats to my knowledge dont hate women, blacks, LGBT, or immigrants. Look at their actions again. The phrase "Republican" jesus has become more popular because their version of jesus, rejects immigrants and hates others for their identity. Anyone can see from the outside which party is more "christian". To me all christians are the same and I judge you all by your worst in your group. Thats my privilege.
right wing christianity is truly bizarre because aside from its sexual ethics there's really nothing right wing about the religion
Right, it's crazy how right wing Christianity is basically just a justification for them being vile hateful people. If right wing Christians got their way we would have segregation still, women rights would be non existent, LGBT would be illegal again. It seems to be just Republican Christians that want this to become a christian nation.
No its christians who use the phrase "not a real Christian" im just borrowing it. I gave my example of a contradictions for Christians faith. History proves my claim that Republican christians hate LGBT. Ill go with them making being gay a crime and passing laws against homosexuality. Them calling homosexuality a mental illness, calling their lifestyle child grooming. Their decades stance against gay marriage, conversion camps. Then Christian lost a bunch of their culture wars and rebranded to transgenderism and said and used the same tactics on them as homosexuality. Not all Christians hate, sure pal, but Republican Christian absolutely hate LGBT. Democrat Christians dont have that hate for LGBT as Republicans do. Thats just for LGBT, but Republican Christians have hate for women rights, black rights, and immigration
Again, not answering my question. You make a lot of presumptions but if we can't have a objective/non-arbitrary standard of what makes a "true Christian," then your claim is arbitrary and nonsense. So, what standard are we using? You seem to be trying REALLY hard to dodge the question, but I'm going to put your feet to the fire until I get an answer.
Its funny, if you don't give a standard, youre just acting like the meme. Like, exactly like the meme. This is essentially you rn: "you should allow more pro LGBT policies because jesus said to be compassionate in the bible somewhere no i'm not a christian and i have nothing but contempt for your backward religious beliefs so yeah, this argument wouldn't work on me but maybe if i use it on you, you'll do what i want"
My standard is people who identify as Christian. People who believe in christian beliefs and I already listed a soul, afterlife, jesus, and god. I haven't made any presumptions. I gave history on Republican Christian hate. America's constitution gives us all the same freedoms and rights. Republican Christians are justifying their anti LGBT laws and hate based on their understanding of the bible. Republican Christian's are not "all Christians" so Im giving you a specific group of people to reference. I also referenced democrat christians and their differences in how they approach LGBT american rights. Democrats may justify their support for LGBT with their understanding of the bible, but they recognize the constitution doesn't allow religion to step on the rights of others. You will have to be more honest and define what you think hate is and what it looks like. Republicans use the bible as justification for hate while Democrats dont. Republican Christian shouldnt be restricting the ri…
Plot twist: you're both retarded
You're the one retard maxxing
No true Scotsman and an appeal to one’s imaginary authority. It’s like atheism is neither a worldview, pedestal, or anything more than a lack of belief.
Wrong
No, quite correct. Holding a negative position gives you no special perspective and you using circular and specious reasoning on what entails a “true” Christian shows that you’re unfamiliar with what critical/textual scholars and historians call the harsh Jesus of the scriptures…as well as the majority of the history of Christianity. What? There were no “true” Christian’s until the 21st century?
No, there is a clear difference between a democrat and Republican christians in America. Can you spot religious extremism?
