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Sr quacksalot · 13 hearts · 214 replies

Do you believe a death penalty is morally justified?

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by Strange Duck · 5 hearts

I’m only okay with it if we know for a 100% fact with zero doubt at all that they’re guilty. Which is impossible most of the time. We have a corrupt justice system and have convicted, even executed many innocent people. Also it’s cheaper to just lock someone up for life. The death penalty and all the processes that lead up to it cost a lot more than a life in prison.

by FatAndPlatonic · 0 hearts

Agreed 100%

by BlackwaterPark · 4 hearts

I don’t trust the government to decide who lives and dies

by T_oR1 · 4 hearts

I honestly just can’t believe anybody trusts any government enough to empower and encourage them to kill their own citizens.

by IngenueGoth · 3 hearts

In theory yes if there was a way to be 100% sure about someone's guilt and the horrific nature of the crime they committed it would be morally justifiable to remove them from the world. But as far as i know there are no legal systems on earth that are that accurate, false convictions already ruin lives, the finality of death means that mistake can never be corrected. And in that way I dont think there is a moral way to implement a system of execution. Even if it is theoretically morally justifiable in some cases.

by Sr quacksalot · 1 heart

I think this is the most accurate way to state my opinions. Thank you

by Count blurrious · 3 hearts

The one thing that I can’t justify about it is giving the power to the state to kill. Idk how to justify that like what make the government moral enough to kill… but the world is dangerous and you need to kill a predator.

by Sr quacksalot · 0 hearts

I also question this. The jury, government is all made of humans who all have faults. Do we really trust the government to make the right decisions?

by BunnyLady · 2 hearts

I think that giving any government the power to kill its citizens is dangerous. I also don't believe the death penalty is moral

by Juschillbruh · 2 hearts

I don't trust the government, so no. Trust me bro is not evidence. I'm sure some can justify it, but personally, I would not take part in that or support it.

by zeugschläger82 · 2 hearts

Morally yes, practically I can't trust anyone (especially not the state!) to deal out a punishment from which there is no possible recourse if it was wrongfully given.

by Midnight_Joiner · 0 hearts

Maybe it should be case-by-case? With modern day advancements like DNA matching and video evidence of crimes, the death penalty could work.

by zeugschläger82 · 0 hearts

Even there there's always the possibility of error or corruption. And there's always the people who will weaponize the system with false accusations, and lobbies that will argue for lowering the standard of proof. Not that those issues don't exist now, but at least you have *some* chance to amend for a wrongful conviction.

by Midnight_Joiner · 0 hearts

Fair point. It's a shame that it wouldn't work practically, given that death would be appropriate in some cases.

by Glorious_Yam · 2 hearts

I don't think the death penalty should be a thing. Not because I don't think criminals deserve to die. I want them to sit in a cell and rot until the day they die. I see the death penalty as the easy way out.

by Silent_Minstrel · 2 hearts

No, because Death is Mercy. The worst people should be made to live as long as possible and suffer, suffer, suffer.

by Silent_Minstrel · 0 hearts

The death penalty was made by people who assume Hell exists, and thus are condemning them to an "Eternal" sentence. Life sentences were made so people had time to "repent before God," to save themselves an eternal punishment. But regardless if it is true, we have no control of what happens after we die; thus the Death penalty is eseentially giving someone a pass on potential decades of real-world, actual punishment, that could have been an example to the rest of society. People are much more afraid of being tortured for 50 years than they are of Lethal Injection.

by Cupid_ · 2 hearts

Morality is relative

by Sr quacksalot · 0 hearts

Definitely. Which is what makes morals such an interesting topic of discussion.

by AceOfChange · 2 hearts

No, and I don't think it's logistically sound either. There are way too many cases of people being proven innocent when it's too late.

by enbycipher · 1 heart

Not to mention how expensive it is because of automatic appeals and such

by Klimpo · 2 hearts

No because the justice system is imperfect and the idea of sending people to death based on potential false testimony or evidence is not right. If I kill someone its bad but when the state does it its good? Make that make sense.

by lavender_passive · 2 hearts

I think it needs to go back to public hangings. If people have to come watch and see what happens and how it’s not a quick easy death crime rates could drop

by Sr quacksalot · 2 hearts

desensitizing death to the public sounds like a bad idea.

by lavender_passive · 0 hearts

Cuz what’s going on in the world is just fine

by Sr quacksalot · 0 hearts

I do think there is a lot of evil in the world, but reading/hearing about things is different than witnessing.

by BlackwaterPark · 1 heart

The same government that just gave protesters life sentences for “terrorism?”

by HoldingMyTongue · 1 heart

No, but neither was the type of crime that is punished with the death penalty

by Intriguing · 1 heart

I'm from Canada I think in some cases absolutely. Touch or hurt a child maximum punishment for sure

by NYGUY1029 · 1 heart

As an idea I agree with it. If someone has spent their whole life being a waste of oxygen and killing/doing anything death penalty worthy, then they deserve to die. The only issue is that the system of law isn’t perfect and sometimes people get wrongly accused and put into prison serving long sentences or killed for shit they didn’t do. So I guess my answer is yes, if you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person is truly guilty.

by YeahNoo · 1 heart

Yes

by Hurricane_97 · 1 heart

The state does not have the right to kill outside of self defense so absolutely not. A trial would have the accused already in custody and rendered immobilized.

by Money4Art · 1 heart

Absolutely.

by The Cowgirl · 1 heart

I do.

by Slow driver · 1 heart

No, but I believe it is necessary nonetheless. Even if it only takes the form of living out the rest of your life in prison and not an active execution.

by not basura · 1 heart

Eye for an eye

by Permutation · 1 heart

If killing in self defense is justified then it would make sense a victim that failed to defend could be Avenged but. They better have all the u deniable proof